Intriguing, but I wonder if they've looked at whole-conversation token usage, though, and not just short tasks.
I just saw a [paper](https://arxiv.org/pdf/2602.05447) that investigated similar aspects of TOON (which aims to reduce JSON tokens), and they found that even though TOON itself reduced the number of tokens, LLMs were less familiar with it, and thus spent even more tokens trying to decipher it, or making mistakes (see section 4.5, figures 6 and 7).
From the paper:
>Unlike Markdown, where each grep hit simply returned more text, TOON's overhead was driven by a combination of output density and additional tool calls from pattern unfamiliarity
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There's a strangeness tax with LLMs, and it can be substantial.
I would not be surprised at all if this technique turned out to be only a local minimum, with detrimental global effects.
Ideological battle is against the intended purpose of this site, and crossing into personal attack as part of it is particularly bad. We ban accounts that do this, so please don't do this here.
Edit: you've been breaking the site guidelines egregiously lately. I'm not going to ban you right now because (unlike the other account, which I did just ban) it doesn't look like you have a long history of doing this, and also because we haven't warned you before. But please don't use the site primarily for ideological battle, and please follow the rules regardless of how wrong other people are or you feel they are. Comments like these are particularly against the rules:
"If there was any system that could guarantee each person housing, whether you call it the abolition of private property or you call it, you know, just a statewide housing guarantee, it is preferable to what is going on right now.", Mamdani, 2020
"We have to ensure we are unapologetic about our socialism", Mamdani, 2021
"There are also other issues we firmly believe in [...] weather is the end goal of seizing the means of production", Mamdani, 2021
"We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.", Mamdani, 2026
It's funny. You people go up in arms calling Elon Musk a fascist because he made a suspicious gesture with his right hand. But, then you have a guy outright telling you he wants to "seize the means of production" and you make excuses on why he is not actually a communist.
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Anna Grzymala-Busse, a Stanford University international studies professor, said that seizing the means of production is a socialist and communist goal. "The difference is that with communism, there is also one ruling party that brooks no opposition and no pluralist civil society," she said.
Collectivism and some amount of state controlled means of production are typical of many leftist systems. America already does this in many places: military, power, education, civil works. Communism stands out among other -isms on the left in that it is single-party and incompatible with democracy.
> suspicious gesture with his right hand
It was a Nazi salute. Don't believe me? Go to a crowded street corner and do the "suspicious gesture," and gauge the reaction.
He doesn't have a point, because he doesn't know how socialism and communism are alike, and how they differ. He's arguing against what he imagined I wrote.
That actually confirms what the other commenter said.
Your assertion was "Every datacentre I know going up right now is spending 90% of their bullshit budget on battlig state and local governments" and you haven't demonstrated any expertise is building data centers.
You've given a very extraordinary claim about DC costs, with no evidence presented, nor expertise cited to sway our priors.
> Your assertion was "Every datacentre I know going up right now is spending 90% of their bullshit budget on battlig state and local governments" and you haven't demonstrated any expertise is building data centers
I confirmed "I’ve financed stuff in this field, from launch vehicles to satellites. And I own stakes in a decent chunk of the plays in this field."
We're pseudonymous. But I've put more of my personal money to work around hyperscalers, by a mean multiplier of 10 ^ 9, over the troll who's a walking Gell-Mann syndrome.
I'm engaging because I want to challenge my views. Reddit-style hot takes are not that.
We don't need to get them all out, though. The vast majority are picking strawberries and working cheap construction jobs, not funneling drugs and guns.
I'm as concerned with getting them all out as I'm concerned with ticketing every jaywalker.
>The vast majority are picking strawberries and working cheap construction jobs,
This doesn't matter. I do not want the idea that someone can invade my country as long as they avoid drugs and guns to spread through the world. Due to how great America is people are going to want to come here even if they aren't allowed, so they must understand that coming here illegal will end badly for them so they fully understand not to come here illegally since it has negative EV for them.
Well, not to worry then, hateful little attitudes like yours are rapidly undoing America's greatness. Soon noone will want to be there, including Americans.
Enforcing the law is not a hateful attitude. If people don't want to be in a society that enforces laws they can feel free to go to some lawless society.
How many laws has the Trump administration flat out ignored? You're cheerleading the introduction of a lawless society. Perhaps you should reconsider your frame of reference.
Their underlying point is that you're actually being very selective in which laws you want enforced.
For starters, I doubt you've brayed as loudly for the prosecution of business owners who employ illegal migrants, as you are for the migrants themselves. (You certainly didn't mention illegal biz owners in this comment chain.) Likewise, the crimes ICE commits already exceed the crimes of those they're hunting, but you haven't acknowledged that.
Which means you don't actually believe in the law as an impartial force of justice, despite what you might tell yourself. You believe in it as a tool of power, to be wielded strongly against those you dislike, and lightly or not at all, against those you favor.
You believe in power and order, not justice and fairness.
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
"If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 50 years ago, a liberal 25 years ago and a racist today."
I agree about hooks and workspaces, but I'm surprised your Claude is having issues with jj itself. jj is definitely in the training data now, so it might be a matter of guiding it with CLAUDE.md.
It usually works, but sometimes it'll try to use git instead of jj at random and needs a reminder. As JJ is not completely stable it tries some old commandline versions as well. This improved after I put in some lines in my agents file, but still it's much better at complex changes with git than jj.
If it helps, this was all I needed in my CLAUDE.md to make it use jj perfectly:
# Version Control
- IMPORTANT: YOU MUST assume we use Jujutsu ("jj") for version control. Check by running `jj root` (or look for a `.jj/` directory) to confirm.
- If I say "commit", "branch", "squash", etc., assume jj equivalents first.
- You can ignore any `git add` command, since jj always auto-adds.
- Use `jj` commands instead of `git`. Never run `git` in a jj repository.
- ALWAYS prefer jj change IDs over commit SHAs. jj change IDs are stable.
- jj doesn't usually require named branches
- If you need named branches, use `jj bookmark`, but you must manually update the bookmark after making new commits, since they won't automatically get updated
- When reading data from jj, always use `--ignore-working-copy` to avoid snapshotting the working copy (which is slow and unnecessary for read operations). But when writing (commit, squash, rebase, etc.), you MUST NOT use `--ignore-working-copy`.
- If you get "Error: The working copy is stale", run `jj workspace update-stale` first
I actually asked about that on the GH discussions a couple weeks ago, but based on this (https://github.com/jj-vcs/jj/issues/7229), I'm not sure it's 100% foolproof to turn on auto-updates.
It might be ok for human use, but I have definitely seen agents in one workspace start encroaching on another workspace's turf. (Rare, but it's a huge pain to fix when it happens.)
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