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Hi OP! In case you're still reading these comments, I wanted to give some feedback. I played it over the last couple days with a total of about 12 different people. Our busiest games had 7 players in them.

The product: The accessibility is key. Telling people to "scan the QR code" is great for getting it going.

The games: They're great. I love the variety and creativity. One problem is I had friends saying "They hate 75% of the games", and I don't know how you fix that - The games some players hate, other players _love_. But as someone who used to be in the game industry, I can promise you trying to make a game nobody hates is how you end up with bland flavor. Please don't end up there.

The lag: I don't know what it is - are the channels backlogged or what - But I would say 20-30% of devices are _unplayable_. It's not like the inputs are delayed, it's that they're fully unpredictable about whether they will register (and for how long). Same browsers, same Android OEM, same Wifi network and just... lag. The game says 1000ms+, but even when it says 200 it's laggy. This is probably your biggest issue, since in a 5 player party game, 1 or 2 people not having fun kills the mood.


Hey! Thanks for the detailed feedback, really appreciate it.

I agree with you that making games that appease everybody will not work in the long run. Did your friends give any examples of why they hated 75% of the games? Was it too much the same (e.g. too many variations of the Party Car games) or just didn't overall like the competitivness?

Wrt the lag you mentioned, that's interesting if you had such a varied experience in the same network. Is it possible that some had VPN's in use? That could be one explanation for the variance.

Also, not sure if applicable but just putting it out there that I've noticed a bug with Android+Firefox browser where the ping-indicator does not work and keeps showing +1000ms regardless of what the actual ping is. But sounds like that was not the issue here.


Did I just wake up from a coma? QNX desktop? Wayland XFCE? What is going on here

Seems like QNX was hiding in plain sight as a car os and a mission critical os for other devices.

I wish we could get it's competitor TronOS to make a similar desktop version --- the demo of it displaying multiple video windows on an 80186 was jaw-dropping --- a shame the U.S. Trade Commission quashed Japan's Ministry of Education's plans to roll it out nation-wide in schools from elementary up through graduate.

There are tons of proprietary RTOS/microkernel products on the market. It's not so much hiding as it is crowded-out.

And none of them can hold a candle to QnX. I've used a whole raft of them and QnX stands heads and shoulders above the competition. The consistency of the implementation is extremely impressive.

I would like to hear more about your experiences. What makes QNX better than others?

Show me another OS that you can undress to the kernel, a console, a file system and a disk driver and then build it all up again without missing a beat.

The kernel processes are actual processes so each of the drivers is fully sandboxed, an error in one bit of code can not cause any other processes to be affected unless you explicitly declare that it should be so (shared memory, for instance) and of course you don't do that.

The reduction of scope alone is worth at least 30 IQ points.

Absolutely rock solid. I built some specialized network devices using QnX and those things ran for a decade+ after first installation. Not a single reboot.



If there is one thing that is testimony to the power of microkernels then it is that one. And that 2011 one was avoidable, imo.

The reduction in scope is really gold, it makes it so much easier just to have a small defined interface per program. It is a bit like Erlang/OTP but with C as the core language, the IPC is so lightweight that it becomes the driver behind all library level isolation. So what in a macrokernel would be a massive monolith with all manner of stuff in the same execution ring turns into a miniscule kernel that just does IPC and scheduling and everything else is a user process, including all of the luxuries that you normally associate with user processes: dumps, debuggers, consoles.


We're definitely a secret ingredient brand... hiding in products you use every day!

We're geeks: I know my car is running QNX for it's nav and audio (and certainly some other things) and, as a geek, I love it. So thank you so so very much! (it's a Porsche from 2013 btw)

Blackberry OS 10 was also running QNX under the hook afaik.

And it was awesome! Very responsive.

I think the market is moving to "mixed criticality" so you can use Linux for your entertainment system but then also use a proper RTOS for the car stuff all in the same SoC.

Yup, similar for audio stuff.

Just like MINIX!

Looks pretty cool. Is it open source? I'd love to have community contributed games

This would be so cool… community contributed games with ratings and themes. So much potential for a platform like this. Great work!

Agreed... also fwiw I don't think that langauge-dependent games are as much of a barrier as it used to be. I've built a game recently that I easily localized first with real-time AI translations and then later with more static language translations.

Anyway I think this would be an amazing thing to let other people contribute to as this is an entire industry of hypercasual games which could easily be ported to this minus the annoying ads


I think the issue with language-dependant games is not just knowing the correct translation - as OP points out, it's more about being funny or clever on the spot, which usually requires a certain level of understanding of the nuances of the language.

Exactly this! Translating the games themselves is not a big deal as that can be automated (although the quality of LLM-translations is not always the best) but when it comes to user generated responses given in a quick timeframe, that's when non-native english players struggle the most, at least in our own friend groups.

Thanks! The community ratings & games is something I've been thinking of as well. I wrote a more detailed reply of the system I've envisioned above :)

It's not open source but in the future once the 3rd party game development SDK has been published, community contributed games can be a reality.

The way I've been thinking it could work is that developers can upload their own games to the platform and by default the games would only be visible under their own accounts and in order to play the uploaded game the developer account would have to be in the session.

Then if the developer would like to publish their game for others to play as well they could just check a box. After that the game would go to a "New drops" playlist where players everywhere can test out different new games and rate them at the end. The games gathering most votes would then be upgraded to the main playlists. In a nutshell the system would work somewhat similar to HN frontpage and new submission pools


Autoclickers and screen macros on Wayland are all janky

> If you took people who absolutely never tried any computing, and gave them macos, windows, and for example Plasma, they would NOT consider windows or macos to be ready for the desktop.

There's some truth to this. I've been installing fresh Windows 11s on family computers this holiday season, and good lord is it difficult to use.

The number of tweaks I had to configure to prevent actively hostile programs from ravaging disk read/writes (HDD pain), freezing and crashing, or invasive popups was absurd.


TL;dr Framework isn't worth the price. If you put it apples to apples with a great product like the M1, Framework loses everywhere.

I had the same conclusion after daily driving both for 2 years; until yesterday, when my water bottle opened in my backpack and soaked them.

When I got home, I ripped apart my Framework and dried each piece. I left the M1 by my heater and tried to dry it out. This morning, I put the Framework back together, and everything except the keyboard works. The M1 won't boot.

While I did pay a ridiculous amount for my Framework, the keyboard is 50$ to replace. After the M1 design had me feeling it was more premium, it ultimately failed first.


To be fair I once spilled water all over my Macbook's keyboard. It wouldn't boot for weeks afterward. I got a new computer and then checked back a few months later and my Macbook was magically able to boot.

1 day is way too little time. make sure the room’s humidity is low, and consider unscrewing the back part of the body to let it dry more quickly.

I’d try again in 2-3 days. Water doesn’t leave any (or much) residue after it dries. Unlike other drinks.


Any repair shops specialized in saving devices from water in your area?

Haven't had a laptop rescued yet, but there was a phone simply dropped in water in my family. I put it in a 1 kg rice bag, drove to the repair shop. I don't know what magic they did but it worked for 2 more years until we upgraded it.


As the multiple siblings say, let it sit. Some desiccant next to it to suck moisture out of the air will help - rice is famously OK for this - no need to put it in the desiccant. A little bit of airflow is also good.

You may also find that rotating it into different positions accelerates it.


As the sibling says, it’s definitely worth waiting at least a week or two to see if the M1 recovers. I’ve had the same experience.

Iirc WikiLeaks took the position of any information that would directly lead to the bodily harm of an individual (or something to that effect). The rational being, "Yes, group A did something horrible that warrants investigation, but if we publish their GPS coordinates they will be blown to smitherines"

Unless those people impacted were friendly to US interests? if I recall correctly they published the names of collaborators and informants in Iraq. They also published military tactics that would help those trying to kill US soldiers. GPS coordinates by comparison generally go stale very quickly.

No, that was the 2010 "diplomatic cables" release. Basically, they disseminated an encrypted version of the data cache, and gave the decryption key to a few key people, including Guardian journalist David Leigh, with the expectation he'd report on the info without sharing sensitive intel.

David Leigh then published the decryption key in his 2011 book about Wikileaks (for some reason) and the info became publicly available. Everyone pinned the blame on Assange.

Moral of the story: journalists can and will disclose ridiculously sensitive info you give them for a bit of fame and you should be extremely careful about covering your tracks.


So no, they don’t redact things even when it can put people in harm’s way.

There was, to say the least, not a specific law mandating release of the material held by WikiLeaks and specify what was to be, and what was not to be, redacted, so I don't see that as much of a guide here.

Honestly just hearing this makes me want to get all their binaries, request the code, scrape it with OCR and upload it somewhere

But that would be silly, because all of the code and binaries is already available via CentOS Stream. There's nothing in RHEL that isn't already public at some point via CentOS Stream.

There's nothing special or proprietary about the RHEL code. Access to the code isn't an issue, it's reconstructing an exact replica of RHEL from all of the different package versions that are available to you, which is a huge temporal superset of what is specifically in RHEL.


Because it's an ad

it's an ad, for what?

i do not see a product upsell anywhere.

if it's an ad for the author themselves, then it's a very good one.


At the end there's a form where you can get a "personalized report", I have a feeling that'll advertise some kind of service, it's usually the case.

You don't think that would be a good thing?

Everyone should just download all art, music and literature for free. Musicians, artists and writers can all make money some other way while I enjoy the works of their efforts.

Unironically yes?

Many artists already work this way. They are on Spotify et al. for reach not because it does anything meaningful for them financially. It’s not like your subscription fee is distributed fairly to the artists you listen to anyway[0].

To the extent they make money at all, it’s from touring, and selling physical media and merch.

The world under Spotify is about as financially bad for most artists as if everyone was pirating away.

If we all quit Spotify, pirated everything, and spent the money we saved buying things from the artists we were enjoying the most (from their own sites, Bandcamp, or at concerts), the artists and musicians would be much better off.

[0] Unless you only listen to the big stars who end up getting most of the payouts.


My wife is in her 40s, doesn't tour anymore, and makes a good chunk of her income from spotify.

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