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> a hierarchical graph layout algorithm based on the Sugiyama framework, using Brandes-Köpf for node positioning.

I am sorry for being direct but you could have just kept it to the first part of that sentence. Everything after that just sounds like pretentious name dropping and adds nothing to your point.

But I fully agree, for complex problems that require insight, LLMs can waste your time with their sycophancy.


This is a technical forum, isn't pretentious name dropping kind of what we do?

Seriously though, I appreciated it because my curiosity got the better of me and I went down a quick rabbit hole in Sugiyama, comparative graph algorithms, and learning about the node positioning as a particular dimension of graph theory. Sure nothing ground breaking, but it added a shallow amount to my broad knowledge base of theory that continues to prove useful in our business (often knowing what you don't know is the best initiative for learning). So yeah man, lets keep name dropping pretentious technical details because thats half the reason I surf this site.

And yes, I did use ChatGPT to familiarize myself with these concepts briefly.


How are you applying what you learned to your business? I think that would be interesting to share if you can.

I think many are not doing anything like this so to the person who is not interested in learning anything, technical details like this sound like pretentious name dropping because that is how they relate to the world.

Everything to them is a social media post for likes.

I have explored all kinds of graph layouts in various network science context via LLMs and guess what? I don't know anything much about graph theory beyond G = (V,E). I am not really interested either. I am interested in what I can do with and learn from G. Everything on the right of the equals sign Gemini is already beyond my ability. I am just not that smart.

The standard narrative on this board seems to be something akin to having to master all volumes of Knuth before you can even think to write a React CRUD app. Ironic since I imagine so many learned programming by just programming.

I know I don't think as hard when using an LLM. Maybe that is a problem for people with 25 more IQ points than me. If I had 25 more IQ points maybe I could figure out stuff without the LLM. That was not the hand I was dealt though.

I get the feeling there is immense intellectual hubris on this forum that when something like this comes up, it is a dog whistle for these delusional Erdos in their own mind people to come out of the wood work to tell you how LLMs can't help you with graph theory.

If that wasn't the case there would be vastly more interesting discussion on this forum instead of ad nauseam discussion on how bad LLMs are.

I learn new things everyday from Gemini and basically nothing reading this forum.


for many people here knowing various algorithms, data structures, and how to code really well and really fast are the only things that differentiates them from everyone else and largely define their identity. Now all of that value, status, and exclusivity is significantly threatened.

I’ve been forced down that path and based on that experience it added a whole lot. Maybe you just don’t understand the problem?

There is nothing pretentious about what they said. Why are you so insecure/sensitive?

Sources dude...


How will people without Python knowledge know that the script is 100% correct? You can say "Well they shouldn't use it for mission critical stuff" or "Yeah that's not a use case, it could be useful for qualitative analysis" etc., but you bet they will use it for everything. People use ChatGPT as a search engine and a therapist, which tells us enough


If you have a mechanism that can prove arbitrary program correctness with 100% accuracy you’re sitting on something more valuable than LLMs.


so human powered LLM user ??


For sure, I've never seen a human write a bug or make a mistake in programming


that's why we create LLM for that


It's humbling how well-rounded Brian (and other Youtubers such as Applied Science and StuffMadeHere, HuygensOptics) is on top of clearly being a skillful physicist: electronics, coding, manufacturing, ... and the guy is _young_ compared to the seasoned professionals I mentioned in the parentheses.


Also prison!!!


When did Zuck start caring about society?


Is this a trick question? Probably before he was even born.


Is this a trick response? There's no way he ever cared about society in a way that wasn't completely plastic.


Sure, for some variation on the meaning of “society”, or “care”, or “plastic”, and maybe all the best ones, but it’s hard to argue he had never seen value in groups of people before starting Facebook, and arguably a motivator for every human being ever born.


Fucking Starlink.


I hate a lot of things about LaTeX (also wrote several theses in it, as well as research articles), but the math syntax definitely wasn't one of them. Why on earth would they change it?


I think anything that is chock full of backslashes and braces can surely be improved upon.


You will end up with just a different escape character.


No it really is much lighter, see my examples here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44354520


considering the Typst founders are German I wonder if this was one of their concerns with LaTex. Typing \ on QWERTZ is painful


>write code

Doesn't that come down to allowing it to directly regurgitate training data? Surely it's seen dozens of such solutions.


Densely populated areas shouldn't have surface-area-inefficient cars as a main mode of transportation at all! Good public transport and the other 2-wheel modes should do just fine, but of course those aren't as profitable.


Good public transport is the key part and I can tell that in most European cities, not the capitals that everyone visits when they say they have been on country XYZ only hanging on the city center without even venturing into the suburbs, that is quite far from where they were supposed to be.


A lot of people look at Europe through the lens of the tourist areas of large cities. As someone who has spent a lot of time in the UK countryside and smaller towns, there is absolutely not a good public transit system even if there might be a few buses during the day.

Heck. I arrived by train from London to a town where I found the busses to the start of my walk were basically non-existent. Fortunately a taxi pulled up as I was trying to find a taxi service by cell as the train station didn't have any staff.


Bus deregulation wrecked public transport for much of the smaller places in the UK.

One of the positive things labour has done is allowed local authorities more control over this, which should help - I can also imagine them being very bad at communicating this if it does.

Of course I'd prefer a bunch more investment too, more train lines and go ahead with many of the previously touted tram schemes.


Yep, exactly my point.


It’s a great ideal state, I just happen to think it’s several decades away. Most people reading this will never witness it. We’ve already heavily invested in what you say should not exist. Financial inertia is strong to keep things on that path. However if we, US, shrink our vehicles we can double or triple the throughput of current roads.


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