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I was actually looking at using this to replace our mongo disks so we could easily cold store our data

I think you're over-estimating how much slack there is in the organization.

A rule of thumb is that benefits cost an employer 25-30% of salary. So you're already pushing to 50% of revenue going to direct salary costs. Then there are employees in non-revenue roles (HR, legal, accounting, IT, etc...) and employees doing non-revenue work.

Finally, you have rent, licensing, insurance, and all the other fixed costs.


An awful lot of businesses go under from underestimating what their expenses inevitably will be. Everyone they deal with has their hand out to get paid.

I mean OP said this is $80 / season, and salary rate is 25/hr.

So to your point, if we assume 4 appointments per season at one hour per, they are actually paying $100 in salary alone to only collect $80 season pass fee - a $20 loss! This business model is not sustainable


I assume that was meant to be "session"

Which is why successful business means being a sociopath.

Anthem Blue cross pays $125-$150/hr. $80/hr is cheap.

Let's expand on this.

People assume that renting out property is rent-seeking literally only because they both have the word rent in them.

I would note that people don't use the word rent-seeker (or parasite) when it comes to banks renting out money. I assume this is partly because banks use the word `loan` and partly because referring to bankers as parasites would be a little too close to dog-whistle antisemitism.


> People assume that renting out property is rent-seeking literally only because they both have the word rent in them.

It's not a coincidence that they have the same word in them. It's literally just the same word with the same definition and etymology in both cases. Rent is a payment demanded by property owners from people who want to make productive use of that property.


But rent-seeking isn't renting. They're different terms that don't have anything to do with each anymore.

> Rent-seeking is the act of growing one's existing wealth by manipulating public policy or economic conditions without creating new wealth. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking)

This definition doesn't overlap with renting.


The term has been generalized in economics to refer to more cases than just rent paid to live on or farm a piece of land.

I blame econonists for reusing the same word to mean different things.

Renting out property isn't rent seeking.

Ok. I'll bite. Why is the thing thats literallly the basis for the term rent seeking not rent seeking?

Because:

> Rent-seeking is the act of growing one's existing wealth by manipulating public policy or economic conditions without creating new wealth. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking)

Given that renting out property you own doesn't meet this definition it can categorically not be called rent seeking. I'm always shocked that people apply this definition exclusively to property rentals, and not VHS rentals, without seeing the hypocrisy.


Wild. It seems to be a very common misunderstanding too.

Googling it after reading Wikipedia shows that about half the sites out there talking about it are also using it wrongly.

Thanks for explaining!


Massive credit for genuinely changing position in the face of evidence; this is rare and deserves lauding.

I fail to understand how your quote doesn't describe land lords? It is: 1. An act of growing one's own wealth (no other purpose to land lording) 2. It is accomplished by taking advantage of economic conditions (perhaps not "manipulating") 3. Does not create any new wealth.

And a little further down is this: > Rent-seeking implies the extraction of uncompensated value from others without making any contribution to productivity.

Which to me certainly sounds like someone who's only contribution is ownership.


Aren’t you exploiting the economic condition that housing supply is extremely low, and a lot of them vote to keep supply low and prevent new builds? I’m not trying to be facetious but I find it hard to believe that landlords don’t exploit economic conditions.

Most landlords are normies that happen to own one or two extra homes. How could these people meaningfully "exploit economic conditions"?

"Normie" and "happens to own one or two extra homes" seem a bit contradictory to me... And doesn't everyone who invests in something that makes them money exploit economic conditions?

Maybe I’m just unlucky but about a third of the places I rented had landlords who owned at least 5 homes. My realtor owns a dozen. I think owning a couple of extra homes is ok… but at some point I feel like it’s a bit excessive. People struggle to own one, let alone a dozen.

If you have 97 flights landing at airport with 1-3 pax each and 3 full jumbo jets and you survey passengers leaving the airport, the average person surveyed will report that their flight was packed.

That's too broad of a concept to be useful. If you applied it like that then quitting a job would be rent seeking for the same reason

There’s no hypocrisy, of course. VHS tapes are not factors of production, which is the universe of discourse here.

What? Of course they are. They just produce entertainment instead of housing-days.

I think we're at the bottom of the discussion here. You've got your opinions but each time you've been pressed you don't really have a justification that stands up.


I can’t imagine what you mean by “each time you’ve been pressed.” Are you perhaps confusing me with other people you’re arguing with?

But no, VHS tapes are not factors of production. That’s a term with a widely understood definition, and linguistic tricks like “a VHS tape causes an image to be produced on a television” or “viewing an VHS tape produces a sense of enjoyment” are not valid arguments.


You're trying to side-step the point by not understanding it.

A VHS tape is capital in the same way that a machine or house is capital. They are capitalized goods that produce something of value on the other side. You still haven't been able to demonstrate that renting one is morally questionable while the other is fine except by special pleading.


"Rent" has a few specific meanings in economics, but charging a tenant rent isn't necessarily economic rent. The economic rent is more like the difference between your actual monthly rent and some hypothetical idealized market-clearing monthly rent.

That's not the basis for the term.

CGP Grey once asked "What happens to humans when it becomes uneconomic to employ them?" eg, the value of their economic output is functionally zero.


If you like speculative fiction on this topic, read Manna by Marshall Brain while you still can (the author died not long ago, so it may not stay up).

https://marshallbrain.com/manna1


I bought a USB-C to 3.5mm jack for around $20. It works well but does tend to get caught on things more easily than a pure jack.


As well as easily getting misplaced…


And easily internally shorted, leading to the dreadful 'wiggle around in your pocket until the headphones are detected again, and then press play again'...


Your evidence (none) does not support your assertion.

You're not even wrong.


What's the deal with the 'Who murdered Denise Robert?' ad?


What an absolute sociopath


The FAA finally approved 100UL gas for small airplanes. I'm not sure how widely it's available now.


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