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I'm immediately reminded of this:

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The moral of the story is: if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts are genuinely wrong.

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https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservativ...


It is unfortunately very true. For about 20 years I moderated a very large forum. We tried so hard to be even handed it was somewhat comical, and then one day I decided to just clean house. Things improved remarkably after that but there were always new people willing to see how far they could bend the rules. It's interesting how you get these new accounts on HN that immediately start lawyering with the rule book in hand. There is no way that that is organic.

Dan & Tom are so incredibly restrained, I'd be much more of a shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later type because the longer such behavior goes on the more people will believe it is acceptable.


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> I am quite glad Dan and Tom run this and not you.

You should be.

> I would like to see all the far left cranks who have taken over what was once an entrepreneur / hacker / libertarian's forum banned.

Right...

For anybody that wants to see what I was getting at: check parents comment history. Showdead 'on'.


Uhh, do you mean contactless payments? That wasn't Apple. Apple wasn't even the first to offer it on phones. Android beat them by 3 years.


The Sapir-Whorf is strong in this thread. MacOS' app-centric model makes it hard to even imagine other people's workflows. Stop thinking in apps, think about a task. I have multiple tasks (workspaces). Each task has multiple aspects (windows). Apps are a distraction, an accidental complexity. I want to switch between tasks and then subparts of those tasks.


It's very weird to assume good intentions or trustworthy info from Grokipedia but then hold up Wikipedia as "heavily poisoned". Your questions are based on a lot of assumptions that aren't widely shared.


I’m leaning paid shill tbh.


While the 2003 Iraq War was complete bullshit lies. No, Halliburton is over 100 years old and a bit of a unicorn company for oil engineering problems.

There were definitely conflicts of interest that should have been resolved but it's no where near what we're seeing this year (sigh, "so far").


And if you're not interested in upholding basic values? What if you're looking to intentionally destroy things instead?

Verified residency is better than nothing for putting real money on the table. Although if you've been to a local town meeting, you'll know it's still not perfect.


BangleJS is fun but it's not all sunshine and rainbows:

* Hackable - Only using Chrome. I haven't discovered any other method but I'd love to be corrected on this.

* Totally touchscreen based and the touchscreen ain't that good.

* Screen might be visible but any Pebble, past or present, is way better

But it's still super fun.

You need to use the forked custom Gadgetbridge to make the most of it too.


Lots of companies tried to recreate the Steam Deck and quite frankly, they're just not as good as the original.

SteamOS is a super controller-friendly desktop that would be right at home in a living room. Like the Deck, the Steam Machine could become a target profile for developers.


Here's a question, what if the executable was thoroughly sandboxed? Like Firecracker level with virtualization? And once you're there, what's the difference between that and a webapp?

I don't think apps are going away so users need to have a switch that says, "I don't trust this company with anything". Extremely limited Internet access, no notifications, no background activity at all, nothing. It needs to be like apps for the 2nd gen iPhone: so completely neutered that webapps look like Star Trek level technology.


There is beyond zero incentive for either Apple or Google to provide something like this. Google HAS network permissions on Android. You just can't access them. They're hidden from you, presumably because Google prefers more malware and spyware running on your phone.

The reality is that both Google and Apple are not just in on this, they created this situation. They not only don't care if you download 1 million apps from the app store that may or may not be malware, they actually prefer that model. Going as far as to sabotage the web to maintain that model. Going as far as developing their own browser which is broken to maintain that model.

Which, relatedly, is why any type of argument of "safety" around the app store or play store is complete and utter bullshit. Apple and Google want you to download as much malware as possible. All their actions demonstrate that.


Google is a step ahead of that, with their device attestation technology. Now apps can make sure they are only running in an approved environment.


This is the inverse of what he's saying. Attestation takes control away from users. Permissions give control to users. The ultimate user control is not using the software at all.


That's what the GP meant, wasn't it? "Good luck with your sandboxing, Google is already a step ahead in this cat-and-mouse game".


Actually, it seems like the opposite. Caring about politics is now a crime.


Interestingly you are both right even tho you say the exact opposite. :)


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