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Can an encyclopaedia be ethical or safe?

Can a search engine be ethical or safe?

Can an AI be ethical or safe?

If you answer differently for one or more of these questions, then you'll have to say why and where you draw the line.


One is a cybernetic system. It has sensors, a controller, a decision system, goals, and actuators. Arguably it's alive, but I think the definition of cybernetics is sufficient because it's objective.

Over the past few years, especially in places like HN, many people have made many arguments that AI is different in this or that relevant way. It's perfectly reasonable to disagree with them, but the implication of this snarky comment is that nobody is making these arguments in the first place.

I do hope the rare earth metal in my calculator is also ethically sourced.

Good artists copy, great artists steal ...

Please provide one example of "art" which Franklin originated.

I mean, if you put a Mac or MacOS in a museum next to Picasso, that would make many people cry.

When people think of a Mac as "art", we call that an occupational hazard.

So if you call a Mac art, you might as well call any computer art.


I can remember the 16-page _Newsweek_ ad quite vividly --- the Mac was something special, and even its spiritual successor, the NeXT Cube did not reach the level of artistic flair which the Mac hit as a quick perusal of:

https://www.folklore.org

would argue.

Moreover, it made the cut at at least one museum:

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/3742?artist_id=10295

(and there are 24 other items by Apple in that collection)

and yes, they have a Picasso as well:

https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5530


Anything can make the cut at MOMA. The gigantic disaster of OLPC is enshrined as "art" there too: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/155757

It was an interesting design, well-suited to the target audience and presents quite well in person (a co-worker bought two, one donated, the other for his personal use when hiking).

Rule #1 in not getting involved in any patent lawsuit: don't use the same terminology as your competitors.

> The ratio of CPUs to CPU programmers and GPUs to GPU programmers is massively out of whack.

These days I just ask an LLM to write my optimized GPU routines.


I see you are still in the stochastic parrot phase.

Using an LLM doesn't mean it has to take the final decision. You can also use it as a warning system.

Is there any indication that current warning systems are insufficient in any way that would be improved by LLM involvement?

Well they don't attract nearly as much investment in the current market, I think that might be the problem people really want to solve

We won't know that until someone has actually investigated how an LLM would do in those scenarios.

That sounds like a solution looking for a problem though, i see plenty of arguments against throwing critical safety information that are in charge of peoples lives into an LLM "just in case the result is better than the result that the current battle-hardened systems already provide"

Nobody can be against just collecting the data and letting people experiment with it.

Are all those security systems actually open right now? Because that sounds like an absolute security nightmare if so.

Can you give an example scenario?

To properly test an LLM based emergency system against the current as-is system there needs to be a way of verifying whether the LLM detected emergency is classed as an emergency as-is. If this information was available publicaly it could enable bad actors things like stress-testing the EMP-tolerance of the current systems or what level of malware infiltration is detected.

False negatives are a huge issue when designing safety systems. It is not the case that "more warnings = more better".

Of course, but an LLM can potentially help with that.

Does ccache fetch compiled code from a central server using checksums?

buildcache, the program the post is about can use a remote server for storing the cache.

And a local cache (kind of level 1 and level 2 caches)

sccache can, but most of us don't have access to an sccache instance: https://github.com/mozilla/sccache

We use sccache on prem with MinIO.

sccache is pretty easy to set up and you can back it with S3, memcache, redis, etc.

Same with BuildCache, except you also get a fast local cache so you effectively have an L1 and an L2 cache.

In fact, since you also have super fast "direct mode" caching that bypasses the preprocessor (like ccache but unlike sccache), BuildCache really has three logical levels of cache: direct, preprocessor and remote (S3, redis, ...).


> I do believe studying CS can still lead to decent paying careers.

Yes, for countries like India.

With AI, outsourcing becomes much more effective.


can you elaborate on your thesis as to why? it seems to me, with raw code being less of a bottleneck, things like understanding the spec, polishing, and doing the fuzzy work around the edges become all the more important. These were never strengths of outsourcing. In fact, I think that the fact that those parts are important is a big reason why the profession as a whole wasnt entirely just outsourced, despite the compelling economic reasons for it.

See my other comment in this thread.

Isn't it the other way around, AI replacing outsourcing? AI can do the implementation work, but you still need the human who needs to specify what has to be done, give architecture guidance and check and accept the resulting work (or reject it, with notes on what to fix). AI coding is basically outsourcing to AI

This is the paradox. But because AI makes outsourcing jobs easier, those workers need to compete, and so they will be able to do those specification jobs and quality control jobs as well.

The paradox is that the quality of AI output is directly proportional to your expertise and understanding, while the trust/belief/confidence in their effectiveness is inversely proportional.

It will still pay to develop the core understanding. It is just that the world can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent :).


I was rich even before I came into this field, my family owns lots of agriculture land and I came to this field for passion of it and was never really motivated by money.

Thing is AI is taking outsourced jobs in india at much faster rate than elsewhere.

The latest layoff coming from Oracle mostly laid off workers in india.


Awful take in my humble opinion. Outsourced, vibe-coders as a concept is beyond scary.

Yes, I wish aspartame was used more.

I hate those stupid sugar alcohols, and stevia as well. Yuck.


I've found the taste of Monk Fruit to be preferable.

Monk fruit is quite expensive, so I'm afraid it will not become very popular in commercial products like candy bars and soft drinks. But for DIY it is certainly a nice option.

Thanks you for suggesting it.


Do they write Rust?

No because if they did they’d tell you about it in the first sentence


if someone uses */Linux, writes rust, and is a vegan, what do they tell you first?

They tell you about free software and what it means and no not like beer.

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