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If you haven't already, you will. Expect supermarkets to start offering and marketing animal-based fats more frequently.

Local stores I go to had animal based fats the whole time. They are fairly cheap and easy to buy in big buckets. Sunflower oil is somewhat cheaper.

But, I cant think of a single time I would had issue to buy animal fat (accross 4 different countries).


I was aware of the panic, but what I learned from this article is that food-makers are actually responding to it by changing their offerings.

"Ultra-processed" does not mean "many steps in the process of creating it". Although I assume many people are somewhat misusing the term by now, it originally comes from the "Nova" system, where part of the current definition of ultra-processed is:

Industrially manufactured food products made up of several ingredients (formulations) including sugar, oils, fats and salt (generally in combination and in higher amounts than in processed foods) and food substances of no or rare culinary use (such as high-fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, modified starches and protein isolates).


Hexane, acid, caustic soda, bleach, and deodorisers have no or rare culinary use.

Yeah, but those dont end up in the final product afaik, which i think is the distiction being made.

The "bleach" in the bleaching process for foods is not the bleach you buy to clean your bathtub.

Any isolation of certain compounds from whole food from other compounds would be part of what I refer to as processed. In the case of refined oils, I'd call it ultra processed just because of how much is removed - even before considering the chemical contaminants.

No, that's just as wrong. French fries deep fried in Sunflower oil are also unhealthy. Adding a spoon of tallow to your tomato soup is also unhealthy.

I would be interested in contributing but it seems like speaking French is basically a hard requirement?


It can be funny but it should not be surprising. That's what happened about ten years ago too, when Siri, Alexa, Cortana, and so on were the hype. Big tech companies publicly tried to outclass each other has having the best AI, so it was not about doing proper research and development, it was about building hacks, like giant regex databases for request matching.


I never understand why posts like this do not start with explaining what they are talking about. I am not familiar with the abbreviation RF and I'm not going on a research quest to guess which one the author could mean.



Thanks. The early 2000s wants their joke back. And just like it was back then, it's still not funny, just rude.

My criticism still stands. If I know what I am searching for, it's easy to find. But often enough have I seen authors use terms which can have multiple meanings and I would need to look at their definitions in parallel of the context of the article, just to understand what it's even about. No thanks, I'll just pick the next HN post instead.


You literally just have to search RF Engineering and the very first results will explain the term for you.


We've seen these news how many times now? Some new model is announced which is supposed to be a game changer but all we do is rely on a few picked data points that are shown to us by the people who are interested in the model performing well. It was the exact same thing with Sora, for example.


[OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47684326)


As a SWE at Rewe (at a completely different department), I can say that I find this pretty cool. I wonder if this is going to be a wakeup to management to relax the API restrictions.


Please pitch internally for an official Rewe MCP server.

This is the future of doing groceries. Let us login with our credentials and let us do the search/filling the cart with agents.

Totally fine to do the payment only on the web, so everyone can be sure they only order what was wished, and not 300 avocados.


That's a good idea and actually was my first thought too. I sent a chat message so the product owner in charge is aware of the interest in something like it.

I think a big issue here is the lack of standard - there is no established way of where an MCP server should be hosted so that agents are easily able to find it. Right now, the best solution I could think of would be to serve it at something like rewe.de/shop/mcp and you'd manually have to register it with your agent.


Nice thank you. If something came out of this that would be amazing. I am not the biggest fan of mcp, as they are a waste of tokens though. I shot you a message on LinkedIn as well, was wondering if this caused some discussion internally at Rewe because it was immediately blocked.


I agree, regarding MCP. But also, it's the best thing we currently have, as far as I know. If you're aware of a better alternative, let me know.


...or to tighten them.


You should tell them to charge for the API.


I mean, definitely leads to me buying more stuff on Rewe than before.


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