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It’s not that crazy. It could even happen by accident in pursuit of another unrelated goal. And if it did, a decent chunk of the tech industry would call it “revealed preference” because usage went up.

LLMs became sycophantic and effusive because those responses were rated higher during RLHF, until it became newsworthy how obviously eager-to-please they got, so yes, being highly factually correct and "intelligent" was already not the only priority.

Oh I have a plan for this.

Allow it to answer general questions about health, medicine and science.

It can’t practice medicine, it can only be a talking encyclopedia that tells you how the heart works and how certain biomarkers are used. Analyzing your specific case or data is off limits.

And then when the author asks his question, it says it’s not designed to do that.


Here, sure.

For the general public, these tools have been advertised this way.

So if a good subset of HN still gets fooled, the layperson is screwed.


Hmm or the layperson wouldn’t be “smart” enough to think that ChatGPT could give useful answers to complex health questions.

In other words, the apps will be trash, and an operations team that doesn't have the time, capability, or mandate to fix them will be constantly scrambling to keep the fires out?

Sounds... reliable.


Same as it ever was.

When I was that age I read a lot of science fiction series. I had friends reading what they called “trashy romance”—they knew it was in no way realistic. This was also during peak Harry Potter, which is literary street food, and I say that as a compliment. Most of us read other stuff too, but realistically, dense English lit was confined to English class.

So this isn’t new and I don’t see the problem.

As for the “views,” by this standard kids shouldn’t read A Tale of Two Cities because it encourages beheadings.


Upvote for "literary street food." Thanks for that.

It’s as if people are rediscovering that writing is thinking. The chatbot is irrelevant, it works even better with a paper notebook.

I think the key, and I’m basing this on people in real life, is that these are all different people, and the person toying with Linux desktop is not also buying an mp3 player and paper notebooks and that person isn’t the one who’s building a DVD library.

But what he’s onto is the thing that unifies all these weird little niches: they’re motivated by a bone deep annoyance with the most popular big tech offerings. None of these groups are all that big, but if you add them together there’s something here.


> is that these are all different people, and the person toying with Linux desktop is not also buying an mp3 player and paper notebooks and that person isn’t the one who’s building a DVD library.

Hey! That's (almost) me!

My desktop has been Linux for multiple decades.

I buy paper notebooks and write with pen. Always have.

mp3 player: You got me on that one. Although I did buy a Yoto (https://us.yotoplay.com/) and perhaps I should just use it as an mp3 player, but to be honest it's a poor player (no shuffle without app, etc). On the flip side, what I like about it is putting podcasts on cards. I can assign a card to any podcast feed and it will let me choose which episode to listen to.

DVD library: Nah - I used to have one and gave in to Plex. I don't know how many of my 20 year old DVDs will work now. Video files have more longevity. But someone did once post on HN how he had set up a physical card + NFC for his kids. A given card has a particular movie/TV show. They insert the card, and the TV plays just the movie on the card and turns off after. I'd definitely pay for that if I could buy it. I'm sure many parents would.


Your DVDs are most likely still working fine, just rip them with Handbrake and add them to Plex (which is what I do).

Disc rot seems way overblown it seems, at least for DVDs. LaserDisc does have this problem, though.


They could. So could Spotify. But in general the big tech products really seem allergic to the problems OP is after.

Anyway I’m a newly minted dad and I’m bookmarking this for a few years out. Congrats! This is brilliant and feels inspired.


Congrats on the new dad status! Enjoy the early years – the Toniebox phase is actually pretty great. Muky will be waiting when they start asking for "that song from the movie" on repeat. ;)

And yes – big tech seems to avoid this space. Maybe too niche, maybe too much liability with kids content. Works for me!


I have a personal budget app and every so often I try and get the latest model to compare my data against the statements and find any discrepancies.

Every time it hallucinates visits to Starbucks.

I never go to Starbucks, it’s just a probable finding given the words in the question.

This should work. I want it to work. But until it can do this correctly all analysis capabilities should be suspect.


Maybe it's the model you are using.

Even a year ago I had success with Claude giving it a photo of my credit card bill and asking it to give me repeating category subtotals, and it flawlessly OCR'd it and wrote a Python program to do as asked, giving me the output.

I'd imagine if you asked it to do a comparison to something else it'd also write code to do it, so get it right (and certainly would if you explicity asked).


Maybe. But it’s always Claude. I even tried copying the text in directly to take OCR out of consideration. It still didn’t work very well.

I used to be an indie filmmaker and used it to host features when nothing else could. I’ve been paying since 2008. The price would go up but they were great so I let it be.

I guess I’ll be exporting everything today.


This is actually my favorite Vimeo video of all time. I wish they would have made a TV show. This was just the pilot, but it's hilarious.

https://vimeo.com/86146321?share=copy&fl=cl&fe=ci


The client review capabilities was pretty nice when I used it once. It's not that the feature stopped working, but after COVID I had to pivot career.

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