Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | e-tron's commentslogin

"So I request every one who is passionate about programming and wants a career in programming to keep away from the php language and community as much as possible." <-- keep away from php and focus on (which language)??

"And you will be so used to using this for every situation that you might be put off by lack of similar data structures in other languages" <-- http://php.net/manual/en/spl.datastructures.php

"and blocks you from seeing the value of using the right one for a particular situation." <-- technically, i do think that the average coder who works in javascript/php/ruby/php/(insert other script languages here) fails in using the proper datastructure for the problem


"and as long as the rotten core remains" <-- care to explain more on this ?? And while you are explaining that i would like to remind you that there are no perfect languages out there..


does anyone actually use rails anymore... node is the new bling!!!


Nokia uses Java + php (internally for cms kinda stuff)


"PHP you're part of the largest computer joke in history" <-- Good Luck with Scaling Ruby/Python


Python scales quite fine actually (Disqus and YouTube use it for a majority of core development). It's all about the tech behind the scenes (uWSGI, Tornado, Ngnix, memcache/redis, etc), not the language itself (just as it is with PHP). Try scaling PHP if only using Apache Prefork instead of mod worker + php-fpm or Ngnix + php-fpm and you'll see what I mean.

I have no problem with using either PHP or Python on a particular project, depending on what is involved. I wish PHP threads would show a bit more maturity/pragmatism on both sides of the aisle sometimes.

http://yougov.github.io/pycon/slides/

http://highscalability.com/blog/2012/3/26/7-years-of-youtube...

http://www.slideshare.net/jinaljhaveri/scaling-python-webapp...

http://blog.disqus.com/post/62187806135/scaling-django-to-8-...


recently(not quite) there was a talk in php internals about changing that.

read this:

http://philsturgeon.co.uk/blog/2013/09/t-paamayim-nekudotayi...


Well, so long as they don't fix the parsing of octal int literals that is okay. Loosing both of my favourite offhand complaints would be rather disappointing. ;)


Or even use a proper IDE to code other than gedit/notepad !!


"official PHP engine is switched to HHVM, it would catapult performance past Python and Ruby in pretty much all scenario" <-- official php performs faster than ruby/python anyway!!


before bashing php about perfomance(to python ruby users)..

Lets have some data. for python users (http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?te...)

for ruby users {http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?te...}



Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: