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It's definitely not bad luck. It's entirely a driven chosen situation. Read the blog post. They're not improving quality there reverting anti-end user decisions. "Quieter defaults," "more control over widgets"

There's zero intention to improve the fundamentals of the os. These are what a smart group thinks will be the smallest concession to retain goodwill.

Come off it with "bad luck"


Look at the names, the parent comment is implying hiring Indians destroyed Microsoft with a wink/nudge. And conspicuously omitting Phil Spencer who led the deteriorating Xbox/gaming division for almost a decade but instead chose to include Spencer's replacement of 1 month and some Xbox PM because his ethnicity wouldn't fit.

We're long past the point of these being the dark nefarious actions of a hidden cabal and you're doing a psa alerting us to a conspiracy.

Consumers are paying for this and every other "terrible" thing being done "to them."

The incorrect place to put blame is the company trying to get away with it. It's the consumers that are literally paying for this stuff.


Same tired argument from when compilers couldn't unroll a for loop, or from when photoshop was new. Did you think you would become that guy when you were young?

The pricing issue is valid, though. It's hard to use a lot of these tools in anger without having to go to fairly expensive plans.

Insignificant compared to salaries in most countries.

The amount of angst people feel the need to have against ai is incredible. We all seemed to want open weights, but it's time to take offense when open weights are used as intended?

Hey, what do you know—Moonshot came out and explained that Cursor was operating within the licensing agreement. https://x.com/kimi_moonshot/status/2035074972943831491

Earlier their employees were Tweeting that Cursor did not have a license ( https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HD2Ky9jW4AAAe0Y?format=jpg&name=... ) so Moonshot employees are partially to blame for the outrage.

No thats not what this was. These are the actions that the Russians did before invading Ukraine and were the specific actions that the military pointed out and said "these aren't normal actions everyone is always doing"

Some of it is Apache

Some of unsloth studio’s code is Apache? Or some of lmstudio is?

From the README at https://github.com/unslothai/unsloth: "Unsloth uses a dual-licensing model of Apache 2.0 and AGPL-3.0. The core Unsloth package remains licensed under Apache 2.0, while certain optional components, such as the Unsloth Studio UI are licensed under AGPL-3.0."

Good to know. AGPL is fine at my workplace too, whereas the custom LMStudio license has been in review since mid January with no ETA in sight.

What do you mean by custom LMStudio license? Your employer requires reviews of proprietary EULAs or do you try to get a custom licensing deal from LMStudio?

Employer must review all EULA terms, yes. The license is a hand crafted proprietary license not a standard OS license.

Letting a few cold feet throw away your relationship with the US is absolutely just as stupid as Trump throwing away the US's relationship with Europe/whoever.

I think you can justify this logic only in the case you sincerely believe that the current admin is a fluke and things will return to roughly the previous status quo on the order of a few years. And that isn't unreasonable to think, but you might also want to have a backup plan.

I think it is very clear from the way all US allies have reacted to various provocations that we are taking a long term view. That is the reason we are still spying on our domestic populations for the US despite our reservations about the current executive and their actions.

No the US clearly believes they would be better off not part of the rest of the world, the best thing we can do is not to drown in that tantrum, and provide the economic embargo they clearly think will bring them prosperity.

Less so if the US is going to try to request current (prior?) allies to assist in a war against Iran which has already been declared 'won' and was recommended against by pretty much everyone outside of current participants.

WP was not sold to him because it was healthy and thriving in the first place.

You should look at the list of projects using it and then realize you're already quite comfortable with bubbletea

I love how HN is loving this idea when it's the exact same thing Anthropic and OpenAi (and every other llm maker) did.

It's God's gift to them when it lets them bypass ads and dl copyrighted material. But it's Satan's curse on humanity when the Zuck does it to train his llm and dl copyrighted material.


Both scale and purpose make them completely different things. You're acting as if they're the same when they're not.

I won't comment about dl but ads are trackers and spyware for me. I don't spy on websites' owners, I have my human rights to stop those trackers.

Zuck serves ads/spywares to other users, he deserves to taste his own medicines, not me.


Yes, it's a god's gift when the average user can do it, and satan's curse what a hated fucking mega-corp is doing it.

Where's the contradiction?


You can see this pattern in many different topics: updoots are highly correlated with a positive answer to "do I personally get to profit"?

Yes, and? People need to eat. Billionaires are generally not interested in whether or not the average Joe gets to eat.

I would love to pay for content. I'm _paying_ for YouTube Premium.

But heck. Do I hate the YouTube interface, it degraded far past usability.


Write to their support. Oh, wait.

I think there's a little bit of the Goomba fallacy at play here to be fair

So you’re that Hal Jordan then? Why would a Green Lantern feel the need to defend either? I feel like the Guardians would not accept your arguments as soon as you got to Oa, poozer. I guess what I am saying is don’t have a famous name. Seems obvious.

OP appears to be talking about real life. What are you on about?

the user name he is responding to is HalJordan, Hal Jordan is the name of a comic book superhero: Green Lantern, a moral paragon.

on edit: he is evidently being "sarcastic"


You conflate web crawling for inference with web crawling for training.

Web crawling for training is when you ingest content on a mass scale, usually indiscriminately, usually with a dumb crawler for scale's sake, for the purposes of training an LLM. You don't really care whether one particular website is in the dataset (unless it's the size of Reddit), you just want a large, diverse, high-quality data mix.

Web crawling for inference is when a user asks a targeted question, you do a web search, and fetch exactly those resources that are likely to be relevant to that search. Nothing ends up in the training data, it's just context enrichment.

People have a much larger issue with crawling for training than for inference (though I personally think both are equally ok).


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