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Fun fact: DirecTV HD DVR's contain GPL code. (Maybe Linux, but I can't remember, really.) It was amusing coming across the phrase "Ty Coon, President of Vice" in my parent's printed owner's manual a couple years ago.

Not so fun fact: When I saw that, I checked online to see what sources DirecTV is offering, and I came across claims that DirecTV is yet another corporation shirking their responsibility wrt their use of GPL code.


Please send a copy of the manual and specific details of what you tried to receive source code from DirecTV to <compliance@sfconservancy.org>.

Note that GPL doesn't require "putting the source online" necessarily, but they are required to make a valid offer for source code to you and fulfill that offer when exercised. We'll need to investigate whether or not they've properly done that before anyone should claim that DirecTV has violated GPL.

(BTW, I'm Bradley M. Kuhn, who, through my role at Conservancy, started the GPL Compliance Project for Linux Developers: https://sfconservancy.org/linux-compliance/


Try going with whole chicken and separating the pieces yourself. You can even throw it into a slow cooker completely frozen if you're lazy. The downside is the time it takes to do the separation, but I've found that in aggregate it's actually a marked convenience, even compared to buying already separated chicken breasts. 1 whole chicken = 8 meals for me, and prepping it only takes about half an hour.

Last year I essentially switched to chicken as my only meat source for meals eaten at home, mostly by default. I sort of ditched that around Christmas after becoming bored of it, but I've found that after doing 1 hour of prep time (half an hour for chicken, half an hour for packing salads) twice a week with the whole chicken approach, it's hard to go back spending 1-2 hours a day in the kitchen, 5-7 days a week--which is a routine I managed for years up until then.


The BBC Horizons documentary I mentioned above also looked into mussels as a source of meat. I don't recall pollution being mentioned as an issue, but it gave other reasons why even optimistic outlooks could only consider them a partial replacement, given the numbers we have for meat consumption today (not to mention decades from now).


> The problem being everyone has had a runoff with the small proportion of non-civilized advocates

Everyone, apparently, except for me. Yet despite the dearth of obnoxious advocates, I have run into dozens or more who complain about their existence.

I think the obnoxious advocate trope is just a trope, and I'm convinced the the vast majority of complainers are complaining about the idea of a reification of the trope or something they've seen on television, rather than any actual live instances of the trope they've had run-ins with.


A BBC Horizons documentary with subtitle "How to Feed the Planet" (popsci--I'm aware) was posted to reddit a few months ago. The conclusion, IIRC, suggested that even the best hacks in beef farming don't hold a candle when compared to approaches that lean more heavily towards transitioning away from beef to other types of meat, especially chicken.


Cattle have a FCR of between 5 and 20 or so. Chickens more like 2ish. If beef is bad because it takes 20 units of food to make one unit of beef and you have a way to make 4x the units of food per acre, then your effective FCR (relative to traditional methods) drops from 20 (at the worst) to 5. If it was at 5 then your effective FCR could be as low as 1.25 If it was more in the middle at say 10ish then the effective FCR could be at 2.5 which is pretty respectable. This is made better because you're also getting eggs from the sanitizing chickens and meat from the broiling chickens that are all making multiple passes over the same land at different times.

This is of course predicated on grass fed beef with the farmer taking a substantial interest in raising as much grass as possible (sanitizing chickens and paddock system). It's not a lot of work, but it does take more effort than just throwing grain at cows in a feedlot.


I don't know what a sanitizing chicken is, and apparently neither does Google. I assume from context it means chickens bred to lay eggs?


In this case it's chickens which get carted around a few days behind the cows. Cows eat grass. Cows poop on field. Flies lay eggs in poop. Eggs hatch into maggots, which eat poop. Chickens dig through poop looking for maggots. This spreads the poop out and gives the chickens an excellent source of protein.

Cow poop is actually a good fertilizer for grass, but it's too concentrated normally. The chickens spread it out to a more reasonable concentration and produce eggs in the process.


How are they farming the chickens? Free range, or in broiler barns?


I'm not going to rewatch it, but the facility they visited used uncaged chickens housed in a barn. If you're making a point about the ethics of it, note that even the concepts of "intensive farming" and "humane treatment of animals" aren't mutually exclusive.


Agreed. But broiler barns and cows in fields isn't a fair comparison.


What are the numbers on the chart in the linked page supposed to mean? Average meat consumption per capita per year, organized by country? And the bigger question: how do this kinds of charts keep getting made, and how do articles that otherwise make no hint at their own charts' existence keep being published?


It is a good question.

I think it refers to carcass per person. This means that they're counting the weight of non-eaten tissue (bones, skin, intestines, brains, etc).

The chart sounds odd to me. I am Brazilian and I know that Argentinians and Uruguayans consume a lot more meat than us, I believe even more than the Americans.

When it comes to non-carcass, edible meat only we are at 37 kg per person/year. The Uruguayans are at 60 kg.


I've noticed the Moto G can typically go 36-48 hours (or more?) without a charge (depending on how light your use is).

Sometimes I come in and crash without putting it on the charger and realize what I've done the next morning. When that happens, I don't have to worry about immediately charging it even then; usually it still can make it to the end of that day (business hours) without being on a charger. This happens around once a week or so, maybe more sometimes.

I'm on my second Moto G, and this has been true for both, so it's not a one-off thing.


> Solo disponible en la Unión Europea


Let's assume that this is a valid characterization of things. Now, we could try flipping one or more of those bits. Surely the soundness of this argument guarantees that the resulting bit sequences are not protected so long as nobody else ever arranged those bits that way, and we're free to use them, right? In fact, we would be the only ones allowed to use the resulting bit sequence then.

Problem is, if we actually did this, the protection status of those bits in real life would not comport with the results we outlined above. Specifically, we would find that many of the resulting bit sequences would be just as off limits to us. That's because copyright is not about bits, and the original characterization that it is is not a sound one.

http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23


The only way to attempt to invalidate nfoz's words there in the way that you want to results in begging the question.

I disagree that nfoz's suggestion is a good one. (See tptacek's followup to lultimouomo[1]). But it doesn't mean the question is invalid. (See lultimouomo's initial reply to tptacek[2]).

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9313558 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9313549


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