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Define your terms.

Do contractors count? Do patent lawyers count?

Do outsourcing services to other companies count?


GPT5 is some sort of quantized model, its not SOTA.

The trust that OpenAI would be SOTA has been shattered. They were among the best with o3/o4 and 4.5. This is a budget model and they rolled it out to everyone.

I unsubscribed. Going to use Gemini, it was on-par with o3.


It's possible you are a victim of bugs in the router, and your test prompts were going to the less useful non-thinking variants.

From Sam's tweet: https://x.com/sama/status/1953893841381273969

> GPT-5 will seem smarter starting today. Yesterday, the autoswitcher broke and was out of commission for a chunk of the day, and the result was GPT-5 seemed way dumber. Also, we are making some interventions to how the decision boundary works that should help you get the right model more often.


Altman is not trustworthy IMHO. So I have a really hard time taking that tweet at face value.

It seems equally possible that they had tweaked the router in order to save money (push more queries towards the lower power models) and due to the backlash are tweaking them again and calling it a bug.

I guess it’s possible they aren’t being misleading but again, Altman/OpenAI haven’t earned my trust.


I don’t buy it. I don’t trust much of what he says, especially when it’s damage control.

(Not that it really matters whether the auto router was broken, the quantization was too low, the system prompt changed, or the model sucked so they had to increase the thinking budget across the board to get a marginal improvement.)


Yep, this caused me to unsubscribe. o3/o4 and 4.5 were extremely good. GPT5 is worse than both.


Absolutes, monastic take... Yeah I imagine not a lot of people seek out your advice.


Well, like, thats just your opinion man.

And probably close to wrong if we are looking at the sheer scale of use.

There is a bit of reality denial among anti-AI people. I thought about why people don't adjust to this new reality. I know one of my friends was anti-AI and seems to continue to be because his reputation is a bit based on proving he is smart. Another because their job is at risk.


I remember when HN would literally shadowban you for suggesting they do this.

Now with 'troll farms'/'reputation management' being so ubiquitous, we'd call Apple irresponsible to not be doing this.


But I like the walled prison where I can't screw up and make choices for myself. I appreciate that Apple makes it so I can't accidentally give my coordinates and have some Monarch track me and murder me or leak my noods.

+4500 upvoots

(I always thought it was suspicious that the anti-apple headline had +30k upvoots on reddit, but the top comment was pro-apple with significantly less. Its almost like they paid an external marketing team/troll farm to do reputation management)


You’re thinking like an end user and not like someone who has provide tech support for others. One of the best things I did to make my life easier was getting mom a Chromebook.


You can root a Chromebook if you choose to accept the risks involved. This is officially supported.


Sure, it's a nice feature, but I probably wouldn't. Maybe I'd put a sticker on it saying "my other computer is a Raspberry Pi Pico."

It's not necessary to root every device you own. You can use one to do your banking and web browsing and have entirely separate devices for hacking.


Unless you want to look like a criminal, I probably wouldn't carry around two phones everywhere you go.


I am so happy I learned about Philosophical Pragmatism. If its useful use it, if its not useful don't use it.

Replicated studies can likely be replicated under the same conditions.

N=1 means you might be able to believe it, but if the results contradict reality, toss it out.

I no longer feel like I need to 'trust science'. No need to trust. Use it if its useful, don't if its not.

This has eliminated those grandiose happy papers that propose a pretty popular fair world that contradict what we actually see.


If the findings are replicated, thats fine, you can begin to trust.

But the findings are often not replicated.


I'm not entirely sure how to do this, but I think it would benefit society to have Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus taught, and probably William James's Pragmatism.

Wittgenstein is a difficult read, Pragmatism is not difficult, but I feel like many people wouldn't understand what is being said.

The goal of this would be to teach how language is the basis for all science, and as a result cannot explain what is realistically happening, but rather a useful estimation.

But right now, the majority of the population believes in scientific realism and have no idea that biology/medicine are systems with rough edges that cannot understand everything.

I imagine the humility for doctors would be a benefit. The general population would be more likely to work towards developing solutions and trying things rather than expecting a simple solution.

But again, I have no idea how to actually do this. It took almost a decade of reading to learn about these concepts, and it took humanity ~2400 years since Plato to figure this out.


The problem goes quite a bit deeper than that in medicine. Most descriptions of diseases have been reduced to a primary set of symptoms and presentations. Just this week we had a study showing MS patients start turning up in doctors offices 15 years before the accepted MS symptom set appears and its taken this long to notice. Worse is the set of symptoms that are part of the disease is badly truncated.

This happens in every single disease, ME/CFS is 280 symptoms yet its defined by 4 despite the fact that only seems to match about 90% of the patients but they have other combinations. We are dealing with both the imprecise nature of language and a lack of common experience with which to convey understanding but also a medical system that has drastically simplified diseases to the point where its descriptions and diagnostics are incomplete. Its going to take a very long time to correct it all assuming we can get medicine to once again follow the scientific findings, which remains a big if at this point.


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