Mine has been disputed several times (because it changed due to name change and wasn't updated). There is a very clear mechanism to dispute that decision, and in fact that's why they ask for your phone number and/or email on the envelope--so when they want to dispute it, they have a way of contact for you to do what's necessary to make the ballot count (provisionally, only if the race is close enough for your vote to matter).
Some of them definitely do not. Like a fictional encyclopedia? What is the point of that? That's like "an alphabetical novel".
And even for the ones that might "beat the rap", I don't understand from your descriptions why they are interesting or unique. A voice note recorder? Cool. There are already hundreds if not thousands of those, why did you need to make your own in the first place? I'm not saying that yours isn't special, I'm just saying that it doesn't help to post the blandest description possible if you're trying to impress people with the utility of your utility.
So not only does he have to show what he built with AI, what he built with AI has to be interesting and unique to you? Why? He's not selling it to you.
Seems like the bar is now it has to be a mass market product. On another post someone else commented a SaaS doesn't count if it doesn't earn sustainable revenue.
I guess OpenClaw also doesn't count because we don't know how much Peter got from OpenAI.
This is an ideological flame war, not a rational discussion. There's no convincing anyone.
It’s kind of like the beginning sequence from back to the future 1 when it shows all the random inventions at Docs house.
Yeah they are interesting, I guess they do something but are any of them actually delivering value? That’s when you get into the argument of what is value and to whom, but as AIs role in society of generating productivity, that’s pretty disputable if every person being able to build their own train set that turns on the toaster and makes coffee is going to move us forward as a species like , say the internet.
That’s really the only argument, is the use of LLMs worth the trillions of dollars and selling out the future of humanity for. Not is it fun Bildungsroman quirky apps really fast
> Seems like the bar is now it has to be a mass market product.
The bar for this will just keep moving. Some people are heavily invested in the anti-stance, so human nature being what it is, you've little hope of changing their minds anyway.
I'm actually becoming an AI convert myself. If there is ideology here, it's not about AI, but about keeping trash off the streets.
For example, I checked out their "Fictional Encyclopedia". It's an absolutely terrible project, much worse than useless, because it claims to be an "encyclopedia" right in the name (the tagline is "Everything about everything"), yet it's engineered to just completely make things up, and nowhere on the page does it indicate this! I looked up my own niche open-source project, and was prepared to be at least somewhat impressed that it pulled together facts on the fly into an encyclopedic form. For the first couple of paragraphs that seemed like it might be the case, then it veered into complete fantasy and just kept going.
Like what is the point of this? I can already ask a chatbot the same question and at least then I have explicit indicators that it might be hallucinating. But this page deliberately confuses truth and reality for absolutely zero purpose. It's a waste of brain cells, for both the creator and the consumer, with no redeeming value. It's neither interesting, nor different, nor valuable. AND it's burning tokens to boot!
I mean, come on, the bar is not that high. Some of stavros' projects may even be over it. But the first projects I checked were sub-basement, and I am not interested in searching through mounds of trash for what might be a quarter dollar. I'm actually kind of disappointed that stavros didn't have (or apply) the sense or taste to whittle down that list of 11 (!) projects to some 3 that show off the value of their work. Which I'm starting to understand is everyone's issue with AI brain rot; it seems to just encourage "here's everything, I dunno, you figure it out" which is maddening and deserves the pushback it gets.
no, the bar is accurate and descriptive descriptions. You know how AI words are typically hollow and devoid of meaning? loads of grammatically fine words but not actually
saying anything? well, these repos are the github version of that. Lots of words but so starved of meaning I shut off mentally trying to read half of them. Some descriptions are outright lies.
Sounds like the goalposts are moving from "not useless stuff focused on pretending to improve productivity or projects that make it easier to use AI" to "extremely useful stuff".
One issue is that I interpreted the parent as OR, not AND. "useless stuff OR productivity tools OR AI tools".
Moreover though, I'm not even saying you shouldn't do those things. I'm actually playing around with AI quite a bit, and certainly have created my share of useless/productivity tools. But it's not a flex to show off your own Flappy Birds or OpenNanoClaw clone, even if they are written in COBOL or MUMPS.
And they definitely do not have to be "extremely useful". But they should answer the question: what problem does it solve?
Fair. But finally we are seeing what LLM proponents are putting forward.
And it’s exactly what I expected - lines of code. Cute. But… so what? This is not good for the AI hype and nor any continued support for future investment.
On the other hand all this stuff is going to drive continual innovation. The more tokens generated the more model producers invest. And we might eventually get to a place of local models.
Don't do that, just avoid answering the "non-believers" or whatever they are called. Your comments are insightful for me (and for a lot of other people, I'm sure). You don't need to prove that they are useful, just comment about your experience and ignore them. It's like arguing about religion trying to make the other person to flip their beliefs (a waste of time for everyone involved)
I guess you're right, I really need to get better at ignoring some people. It just really got to me today because someone else looked at one of my projects for two seconds and decided to tell me off for it being "insecure" and "slop", and it kind of ruined my day.
I have the opposite experience, the amount of AI boosters deriding the less enthusiastic, gleefully exclaiming how someone will be "left behind" if they don't immediately adopt the latest hype cycle, or sharing AI slop and either embellishing or outright lying about it's capabilities is making me want to log off forever. "Handwritten code? Don't you only care about providing maximum shareholder value?" No.
don't waste your time, they're a slop slinger who won't take any feedback that could feel like a hit to the ego. I've wasted too much time on them already, cut your losses and move on. Their 'safer' personal bot for example is anything but, but they won't listen to feedback.
"cannot be won" "only solution" "only alternative". sorry, no, that's too black and white. There are other solutions, even if they will only work for a couple of days/months/years.
We can relentlessly bully anyone using phrases like "Red Queen's race" unironically. Measly human resistance against the vapid strip-miners of semantic value.
You mean that you don't believe that we are in co-evolution with AI? Because otherwise it is a Red Queen's race, and it is a useful frame for understanding. For example we can make it a race between symbiotes.
If you are Sisyphus, the fact that the hill is infinite is useful when planning your day.
I agree, Claude Code has been addictive for me too. It feels like I'm finally churning through a backlog that has been weighing on me for years (decades even). Maybe the addiction is not to Claude but to productivity, and Claude is just an enabler. (And maybe the productivity is an illusion, time will tell.)
I am also finally churning through a decade old backlog. Mostly because some of the items are so big and would otherwise require so much dedication that I’d have to do nothing else for a long while: a git-powered issue tracker, a highly secure git forge, a blog platform on top of a static site generator, an agentic orchestrator, a Nix flake that can pass ISAE 3000 as a managed alternative to Windows and MacOS.
Not that I’ll start working on each of these this year. But even prioritising them eventually.
Claude Code gives me the courage to imagine that I’ll have actual progress on big things because it helps me maintain an overview and not get stuck on details or gas out or lose interest, which I tend to.
I recently rediscovered that I had done progress on the issue tracker 8 months ago and that this was so well-made in retrospect it motivated me to pick it up and continue. Leaving something in a well- documented way with weeks of effort poured into it over days is just a gift.
Same but for me it's 25 years of accumulated personal backlog that I'm finally burning through. Like I've been a project hoarder and now I have a house elf to tidy up and do all that widget fobbering business. I just need to figure out what the rules of the house are.
The danger is that we won't be sending these fully-autonomous drones to 'war', but anytime a person in power feels like assassinating a leader or taking out a dissident, without having to make a big deal out of it. The reality is that AI will be used, not merely as a weapon, but as an accountability sink.
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