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I've been saying glossy screens are pure cancer for 20 years and every time I was dismissed as a Luddite that should get with the times.

Now they can sell you "nano texture" at a premium after getting you hooked on functionally terrible displays (they look pretty in the store though).

My worst experience with glossy displays was when I had to perform some work outside on a sunny day and I comically could not see a single thing. It looked like a pure black square. I laughed, packed up and left, and told my boss it wasn't happening.


glossy screens are better for visual clarity, especially contrast (reduces eye strain when reading text)

Yes the visual clarity of staring into a reflection of my own shirt, and any light within 10m.

There is no worse eye strain that looking at anything that isn't supposed to be on the screen. It's 90% noise.


The glossy screens have like 2% more contrast but 300% more distracting reflections.

How dare you even trying to compare otherworldly nanotexture™®© to a regular horrible PC matte screen!

Unappealing PC matte screens are for old farts who can't appreciate sexy rounded corners and perfectly rendered fonts¹

¹ assuming your display yields over 300dpi

If you are a cool kid, you'll prefer glossy screen any day. Only with deep contrasty blacks will you be able to appreciate your low-contrast macos interface or your low-contrast VScode solarized theme. Occasional gorgeous reflection of stunning you squinting at the screen is just a nice bonus.

But I have to give it to Apple: PC glossy screens are mostly even worse.


Rest in peace, Sky King.

You must be mistaken.

This site stopped being Startup News just like Facebook became the 'metaverse' overnight.


Google does whatever is convenient and makes them money. Altruism was never part of the equation.

Sure. Not being hacked is good for business.

Keep in mind that google is primarily a cloud business. That means that they take on a lot more of a risk, as when they are hacked its a them problem vs traditional software where its much more the customer's problem. Security is very much about incentives, and the incentives line up better for google to do the right thing.


It's more about when Google assumed full control of the cloud, the browser, the OS, and everything in between they self-appointed themselves as the unelected standards board of the Internet, and forced everyone else to follow their whims and timelines. Some of which are completely insane.

What are the policies you view as "completely insane"? I have some I disagree with like how they've handled things like Manifest v3 in the browsers, however there are still alternatives like Firefox anyway. However I think in terms of web standards some of the things they have pushed are also helpful. It's been much nicer having a much more consistent web browsing experience with less things like "You must use Internet Explorer on this site".

I feel like web browser and website standards are one of the main areas Google has a lot more control of policies. Is there somewhere else they have much control of for standards?


>It's been much nicer having a much more consistent web browsing experience with less things like "You must use Internet Explorer on this site".

What browser do you use?

Because I've definitely run into this but s/ie/chrome/ but with no helpful message. You just have to guess that that's why it's broken


Re: the IE thing. Only Apple's insistence on Safari in iOS is stopping sites from basically being chrome only.

And you‘re implying making Windows networks less insecure is completely insane?

This is such a negative reading of the situation. You’re talking about something that has been compromised for TWO DECADES.

At least now nobody can pretend.

I for one hope that this hastens the demise of every remaining use.


Google thrives on being the Internet's biggest bully.

It turns out when nerds get a billion dollars they like being bullies too.


"To demonstrate how crappy most front door locks are, to boost our company's social media cred we will be leaving drills and a dish of bump keys at the entrance of the neighborhood."

NTLMv1 rainbow tables have been available for 15-20 years. The only thing new is that Google are publishing theirs.

NTLM is often used for more of the underlying technologies, some more secure than others… nthash, net-ntlmv1, net-ntlmv2. There’s a little more complexity here and this is different than the stuff that was out 15 years ago

> this is different than the stuff that was out 15 years ago

This stuff was out at least 10-15 years ago. It’s different from the ancient local ntlm hash cracking everyone used to get admin in high school, yes, but it’s not a novel technique.

on cursory google, https://github.com/NotMedic/NetNTLMtoSilverTicket/blob/maste... is 6 years old and was old news when it was committed, and https://crack.sh/netntlm/ has been around online for at least 10 and I think more like 15+ years.


Microsoft has deprecated NTLM and is actively ripping it out of windows.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/upcoming-changes-t...

Windows 11 is probably the last version that will contain NTLM (and hopefully NTLMv2). Going forward everything will be Kerberos or Oauth based.


Ironically enough, the things that tend to break first when you try to turn off NTLM are still Microsoft products like ADCS.

You're not wrong, I just want to point out this is net-lmvm1, which is different and more complex. Not functionally meaningfully more complex to an adversary with a few hundred USD (almost typed LSD) in monies. But technically larger tables. That being said I'm in agreement that this has been known problem for 10+ years, and Google is just saying the horses are so long out of the barn their grandchildren are grazing.

The bad guys already know you live in a bad neighborhood and have been closing your front door with a plastic combination lock you got in a Happy Meal 40 years ago. They can already come and go at a whim. This is Google letting you know that your crappy lock is pre-broken to encourage you to upgrade to literally anything else.

It's certainly morally and legally dubious to facilitate attacks on things that others choose to use in within their own private domains, just because you disagree with that choice. But that's how these people roll.

It's been 15 years since this was known broken. If you had children when it was not known broken, they'd be almost old enough to drive in most western nations.

At some point the line must be drawn.


Some are very entitled to drawing lines on someone else's property. Why don't you mind your own business?

I mean this kindly, but if you're still using net-netlmv1 on anything that matters, you need to pay much more mind to your own business because even the original vendor of it has been telling you to get off that since 1999 because it is not safe.

If you're using it on something that doesn't matter, then it also doesn't matter that rainbow tables any attacker could have already had for a decade are slightly more available.


you say that like it's a negative analogy

Disappointed with the lack of pictures.

Probably because this looks more like a Deep Research agent "delving" into the infrastructure -- with a giant list of sources at the end. The Archive is not just a library; it is a service provider.

I wasn't expecting to read a podcast when clicking.

What do you want some pictures of?

An article about "infrastructure" that opens up with a dramatic description of a datacenter stuffed into an old church, I would expect more than just generic clipart you'd see in the back half of Wired magazine.


That's great. Ask and ye shall receive.

What's most surprising is churches notoriously have really sketchy electrical. There had to be some renovation in that regard, right?


There was a lot of renovation. One day they fired up the pipe organ (which still works) inside the building as well as the servers and the transformer for the street blew up. That was a legendary day.

No regular residential building is set up to host a datacenter off the bat. Even racking more than half a dozen boxes in a given room requires an upgrade.

Most rooms in North America won't be wired for anything over 2.5 kW by default (kitchens and laundry rooms being obvious exceptions).

An electric dryer might pull 5 kW. An electric range ballpark 10 kW. Versus 15 kW per full rack for a fairly tame setup.

And then you've got the problem of dissipating all that heat.


That's super cool! Can the IA building be accessed by some random people like myself? Next time I'm in SF (who knows when that will be though) I'd very much like visiting it!

Fridays at about 1pm, we give tours.

Thanks! The church attendees (employees?) have a Severence Kier vibe... although I'm guessing the TV show came much later.

This is the type of cool shit I come to HN for. Thanks for posting this.

Unfortunately, it may be lost amongst the noise, and what I see being massively upvoted instead:

• Some schizo conspiratorial screed about Epstein that I refuse to click.

• Multiple off-topic political / culture war bullshit links.


Because like most political threads, it will largely consist of people with a crayon-and-coloring-book understanding of geopolitics posting low-effort snipes and trading insults while contributing basically zero to productive discussion.

The most disgusting example of this in recent memory was the Scott Adams death thread, where complimentary comments were being aggressively flagged, and toxic vitriol was being upvoted. It made me finally realize how many joyless, seriously broken people lurk here.


Hey, I'm just joyless, not broken. Also that thread was full of people complimenting his political views, not just his work on Dilbert.

Don't try to sneak in political commentary under the guise of "complimentary comments" and you shouldn't have to deal with as much pushback from people with opposing viewpoints.

That or keep doing so and complaining about others free speech. I'm an anonymous poster on the internet, not a cop.


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