This is the low quality reddit-style garbage that gets upvoted on HN these days?

What are we supposed to talk about in this thread exactly? The developers of this model are evil. Are we supposed to just write dry comments about benchmarks while OpenAI condones their models being deployed for autonomously killing people?

Yes I'm sure it makes a very nice bicycle SVG. I will be sure to ask the OpenAI killbots for a copy when they arrive at my house.

While low quality, it is extremely important, potentially historically significant too.

If it is actually that important, then maybe more effort should be made so it isn't "low quality." Cannot be very important to them if they're disinterested in presenting an intellectually compelling argument about it.

PS - If you think I am not sympathetic to what they're raising, you're very much mistake. But they're not winning anyone new over their side with this flamebait.

Sometimes you throw a brick through a window, not because it's an intellectual thing to do, but because of the hundred people who'll maybe smash the next hundred windows after you do yours.

and then, because any supportive response to all that window smashing is informative as collective intelligence...

and then, bc that all validates that the order that all these clever rules were upholding is illegitimate.

It's how a very stupid thing stands in for a million smart and well-understood things that everyone is also trying to say.

You can say your piece about how you don't like OpenAI working with the US military on lethal AI without making Reddit style quips.

The HN of old is no more unfortunately. Things get up or down voted based purely on political alignment.

As programmers become intelligently irrelevant in the whole picture, you would see more posts like this

"This account belongs to a lazy person" true

I was just reading the model card...

True and simply vote it down.

mycall would also be to do the same

What kind of violence have you experienced from striking up friendly conversations with strangers in otherwise normal circumstances? What are you talking about?

Guys, remember, when you set up your AI-controlled automatic machine gun in your front lawn, be sure to do it safely and pour a solid concrete foundation for it to sit atop of. We wouldn't want it to cause harm or injury by tipping over.

Who do you imagine the users were back when it was being developed?

People who were not that one programmer?

Even if you're a programmer, that doesn't mean you magically know what other programmers find easy or logical.

Yeah but now they're using npm to install a million packages to do things like tell if a number is greater than 10000. The chances of the programmer wanting to understand the underlying system they are using is essentially nil.

Two very big revelations here that I would love to know more about:

1. Can you reveal "what's actually happening behind the scenes" beyond the hint you gave? I can't figure it out.

2. Can you explain how an ants sense of smell leads to anthills?

> 2. Can you explain how an ants sense of smell leads to anthills?

Ant 0: doesn’t seem to be dangerous here. I’ll drop a scent.

Ant 1: oh cool, a safe place. And I didn’t die either. I’ll reinforce that.

Ant 142,857,098,277: cool anthill.

The dynamics of ant nest creation are way more complicated than that. The evolved biological parallel of a procedural generation algorithm. In addition, the completed structure has to be compatible with the various programmed behaviors of the workers.

That's great, but it doesn't make you or any of us engineers.

Just because I drive my car with immense focus, make precision shifts, and hit the apex of all of my turns when getting onto and off of the freeway doesn't make me a race car driver.

Engineers don't just feel good vibes about science and mix it into their work. It is the core of their work.

Simply having a methodology absolutely is not sufficient for being an engineer.

And great, you have an arbitrary system of ethics, like everyone does I imagine. But no one holds you to these ethics.

Care to share your operational definition of the word "engineer"?

So what do you do with the information that your house is about to flood? Do you have a special flood prevention technique that you can only put into action when you know the rain is coming?

Seems like if you were going outside often, you wouldn't need an e-ink display to tell you the weather because you'd be outside... experiencing it

Depending on where you live, if you're the type of person who spend most of the day away from home, having some understanding of the weather to expect throughout the day is very useful for not experiencing the weather too much.

Very useful to know if it's likely to rain or be windy, and the highs and lows. I might be leaving at noon when it's comfortable and warm outside, but I might be coming home needing a thick jacket and an umbrella. If I'm already outside experiencing the sudden rainstorm and my umbrella is at home, it doesn't really matter that it wasn't raining when I left home many hours ago.

Yes, but you need this information once, maybe twice a day, instead all smart devices tend to present it to you constantly.

I have a pixel device, and by default I have the weather on both lock screen and home screen. Every morning I receive a notification with the expected weather for the day, and it keeps suggesting me to enable the weather preview right after the morning alarm.

Garmin smartwatch? Same

Android car / Apple car? Same

MacOS has the weather as one of the most prominent widgets available, and I believe windows to be the same.

Do I really need to have weather info constantly available to me?

That's the weather right now. I want to know what the weather will be like through the day and across days. I'd rather do something else in the morning, however if it's ok now and going to rain in two hours, I'll get everyone outside now and do the inside job later. Is it going to clear up soon and I should wait 10 minutes or get worse and I should be getting out right now? Should we put off the march through the woods until tomorrow when it's nicer or do it today because this is the nicest day we'll have this week? Should my wife cycle to the gym? It's ok now but if it's going to be torrential in 15 minutes that'll suck.

The same reason you use a calendar, to plan for the future. I can see the weather right now, but to plan, I want to know the weather in an hour, this afternoon, tomorrow, this weekend. When I am getting ready at 5am, I want to know if I can bike to work, and bike home in the afternoon, without getting rained on. If I'm thinking about weekend plans, should it be kayaking or board games? The weather affects those choices and having an unobtrusive way to just be aware of the future weather is nice to have.

There’s a lot of places where the weather can suddenly change. People want to know if it’s about to start pouring rain in a couple hours despite looking nice right now.

In Colorado the weather shifts are jarring and sudden.

Your comment reminds me of those infomercials where they try really hard to make something as simple as cooking spaghetti look like an unimaginable nightmare that no one could possibly accomplish

This one time... I went downstairs to check on the laundry. I thought it was done... But... It wasn't. I had to come back 10 minutes later.

Ugh, that's the worst. Sometimes I just stand there for 5 minutes waiting for it to finish.

You have to imagine other people might think differently than you do... I forget, it happens, nothing I can do with it. Having notification on my phone (place I'll look sooner or later) that laundry is done was great lifehack for me. No longer I forget and leave it there for whole night or even days...