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CloudFlare Radar has stats for desktop (34%) vs mobile (46%) adoption: https://radar.cloudflare.com/explorer?dataSet=http&groupBy=i...

Spain has one of the highest FTTx rollouts in Europe though. My theory is that they just prioritized building fiber and there was no money left for ipv6 transition.

Most of the chatter comes from the peanut gallery who have no real insight on what ISPs and other large networks are actually doing.

This. "Vibes," vs. data.

Except that is completely wrong. Consumer/residential networks have significantly higher ipv6 adoption rates that corporate/enterprise networks. That is why you see such clear patterns (weekend vs weekday) in the adoption graphs.

There are still a lot that have not.

> I wish hosting providers would give you a local routed ipv4 on ipv6 servers with a default NAT server.

You mean like AWS NatGW https://docs.aws.amazon.com/vpc/latest/userguide/vpc-nat-gat...


30 USD/month and 0.045 USD/GB for ingress it is ok if you are big. It is a cheap service to build yourself. I do feel the pain of it being hard to get IPv4 minimal connectivity on ipv6 only hosts, i.e. for me a 1 USD/GB would be fine.

Those are still per-customer and require you to dedicate an entire IP address to it. That's overkill for a server which mostly talks over ipv6 but needs to connect to an ipv4-only service like Github once in a blue moon.

Any services like this for Hetzner?

US is significantly above average in terms of adoption

My prediction is that sites will be half-IPv6 only; backends will be IPv6 and IPv4 traffic will get proxied to IPv6 by CDNs / edge LBs. I think CloudFront for example supports that scenario, avoiding IPv4 costs (in theory).

This google metric measures adoption in access networks, but at this point I feel more interesting metric is adoption in services.

One such stat is here:

> adoption ranging from 71% among the top 100 to 32% in the long tail

https://commoncrawl.org/blog/ipv6-adoption-across-the-top-10...

Getting full coverage on AWS (/GCP/Azure) and few other key services (GitHub...) would be significant here imho.


Yeah, a large portion of those ipv6 Google searches are afterwards connecting to an ipv4 host.

I doubt it honestly. Most people are connecting to sites like Youtube, Instagram etc., which do actually support IPv6.

It's how I get 60~80% IPv6 traffic on my home network. A great portion of it was because of my mom watching Youtube.

Even when you discount the services run by FAANG, for personal sites, Cloudflare and GitHub Pages (but surprisingly, not GitHub itself) support IPv6 and enable IPv6 support by default.


Actually yeah, especially if you measure it in bandwidth, and even if you just measure it in requests

great resource. Common crawl is a goldmine

> End users shouldn't need to set up 6to4 tunneling. It should be ISPs doing that to prepare for the transition.

Which is what ISP are doing with 464XLAT deployments. IPv6-mostly networking and IPv4-as-a-service are things that are happening in real world right now.


Yeah in Japan my ISP even lets me choose which IPv4 provider I want to use, as the fiber network is IPv6-native and IPv4 is "just another service" like IPTV.

Wow, that’s very cool! Do you know how that works? Do they just connect you to a NAT64 gateway of your choice?

IPv4 is provided using DS-Lite or MAP-E depending on the provider.

I'm using OpenWRT and paid for a static IP so I had to manually configure all the details for the MAP-E tunnel in OpenWRT myself, I think typically the routers sold to consumers pick up the configuration automatically somehow.


Which provider are you using? I'm curious about this since there are not many OpenWrt guides for getting connected in Japan. Is your config similar to this write-up? https://github.com/fakemanhk/openwrt-jp-ipoe

I didn't need to do any configuration for DS-Lite or MAP-E, as DHCPv6 with a configured prefix got IPv6 working, although DNS is still broken when turning off IPv4 entirely.


I'm using en hikari on Flets Cross (10 gigabit) with v6plus.

I set it up like 2 years ago but this was in my bookmarks: https://zenn.dev/ebi68k/articles/6df7cfec64c281

edit: looking this all up again to refresh my memory, it looks like with my static IP the provider switches from using their default MAP-E to using RFC2473 directly instead, the configuration matches "IPIP" in this guide https://qiita.com/kouhei-ioroi/items/cf0c6228c5c1faef415a


Woah, MAP-E allows static v4 (and presumably inbound connections)? That seems neat and much better than DS-Lite!

I'm re-learning this right now since I kind of just set it and forgot it 2 years ago but while my provider typically uses MAP-E it looks like when you use a static IP it switches to using RFC2473 (IPIP6) directly without the extra port mapping that MAP-E adds ontop

First thought in my head was that these would make great demos for 3DGS: both geometry and light interactions are non-trivial. I imagine that makes them difficult to capture with traditional photogrammetry

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