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> not in the sense that you were ever in any real danger

The analogy breaks down because an island isn’t space. Your default state on an island tends towards remaining alive. Your default state in space is dead.

A closer analogy is a plane in flight. It takes energy and effort to keep everyone alive. Externally-assisted recovery from peril, in that situation, is a rescue. Even if it’s convenient.



No astronaut has died on ISS in 30 years. Claiming they are in significant danger simply isn't accurate. Saying 'the default state in space is dead' when historically basically nobody has died in space.


> No astronaut has died on ISS in 30 years. Claiming they are in significant danger simply isn't accurate

Nobody claimed as much. A jet liner is safer than the ISS. The analogy is conservative.

> Saying 'the default state in space is dead' when historically basically nobody has died in space

Our default state at cruising altitude is dead.

Note: I’m not suggesting anyone would have died. Just that they were in a perilous place where things were going wrong. Being relieved from that position is a rescue.


> A jet liner is safer than the ISS.

Maybe not if the jet is a Boeing though?


To be fair, I'd rather be in a 737 Max at 30,000 ft than without the 737 Max at 30,000 ft.

And I'd rather be with the Starliner at 400 km up than without the Starliner at 400 km up.

But neither seem to be of comparable safety to the other options available.


No speeder has ever died on the highway either. It's only the crashing drivers who died.

It is likewise as foolish to try decoupling the peril of space and the peril of orbit and deorbit.


> Your default state on an island tends towards remaining alive.

I'm guessing you spend most of your life indoors?

On Earth, outside of the carefully regulated homes we've built as a society, the default state is dead and it takes tremendous work and constant vigilence to avoid that fate, only ever temporarily.


And that is why if somebody finds a child wandering in the park alone, we say that the man rescued the child. Exactly as SpaceX is doing in this situation.


Yes and we also say you rescued me if I am bang out of cash and you lend me a fiver at checkout...

If you see a news headline "man rescues child" you expect a direct threat like something like from a burning house.

> if somebody finds a child wandering in the park alone, we say that the man rescued the child. Exactly as SpaceX is doing in this situation.

Plus, saying astronauts, professionals who signed up for the job knowing what it entails and went through years of training are like children wandering in the park, to paint SpaceX as their savior, is... wow.


Humans in space are less than children in the park. We've barely ventured out of our own atmosphere. Less than a 1000 people have been to orbit, and only 24 have gone to the moon. Out of those, only a dozen have landed on the moon.

And the moon is still the Earth system - we've never really left our own yard.


unlike the moon ISS is shielded by magnetic field and receives less radiation. It is actually our yard more than a park


You are invited to stretch the analogy as far as you would like in order to win an internet argument. Have a nice day.


Saying astronauts on ISS are children in the park and saying "rescuing a child" from the park is newsworthy headline is the stretch...




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