> "the people who in aggregate comprise Geffen Records will regret the role they played in restricting access to these works,"
Is this deep? What people in this thread are saying is that they won't regret nor remember it, and whatever comfort you're taking from thinking "in the end, after everything is ruined, they'll realize I was right" is cheap and lazy.
Nobody needs anybody to point out that the loss of music is bad. Nobody needs anyone to conjure fantasies of future schadenfreude over the regret of record execs. People need tactics and strategies to figure out how to stop this destruction.
> What people in this thread are saying is that they won't regret nor remember it, and whatever comfort you're taking from thinking "in the end, after everything is ruined, they'll realize I was right" is cheap and lazy.
There are multiple users in this thread stating that the label is a corporate entity designed to maximize profit and that it thus cannot "feel" anything. This was obviously not what was being stated.
As to those claiming that these individuals won't regret what they have done: That may be true. But why does it happen with developers? Because it happens a lot.
Neither I nor Seubert made this claim out of some pseudo-religious self-reassurance that "One day, they'll all get theirs!" but as a simple observation that these actions are ill-advised. I don't know how you could read it any other way without being intentionally obtuse.
> Nobody needs anybody to point out that the loss of music is bad.
What you're essentially saying here is: "Your observation was so obvious to me that it shouldn't have even been written down, because everyone already knew it." This is obnoxious and not in the spirit of the forum.
> As to those claiming that these individuals won't regret what they have done: That may be true. But why does it happen with developers? Because it happens a lot.
Because Developers make games, and record execs make money. I'm sure there are a handful out there who actually give a shit about the art they make their money off of, but having worked with many of these people for many years, I assure you the vast majority are exactly as soulless as is depicted in virtually every movie or TV show that involves one, because the creatives behind those depictions have to deal with those soul-sucking vampires all the time, and they hate them. And the feeling there is very mutual, which is why every executive is creaming themselves at the prospect of being able to get rid of creatives and replace them with "AI."
> Neither I nor Seubert made this claim out of some pseudo-religious self-reassurance that "One day, they'll all get theirs!" but as a simple observation that these actions are ill-advised. I don't know how you could read it any other way without being intentionally obtuse.
Because, as is outlined by the commenter, the notion of "they'll regret this" is presupposing multiple bad assumptions, namely that record executives give the faintest shit about music beyond it's ability to make number go up.
Oh no, Capital Records has a bad reputation. It will still stream. Album sales will be unaffected because consumer revolt has always been worthless as a tactic. What are they regretting?
>There are multiple users in this thread stating that the label is a corporate entity designed to maximize profit and that it thus cannot "feel" anything.
The issue is the surrounding system and the corporate environment are what raise people to be this way and filter out those who are too sentimental. I don’t think a good majority of the people working there will ever feel bad because they’ve been raised not to feel bad and given an ideology that makes all that work in their head.
I think it's good to publicly express our disapproval. Because — as we have sadly seen recently — there will always be a small group of apologists defending villains or systematic oppressors:
(It's worth also considering that the group size does not always correlate to its power or influence).
But you are totally correct that thought-terminating expressions of Schadenfreude towards those who exert harm are not enough.
Is this deep? What people in this thread are saying is that they won't regret nor remember it, and whatever comfort you're taking from thinking "in the end, after everything is ruined, they'll realize I was right" is cheap and lazy.
Nobody needs anybody to point out that the loss of music is bad. Nobody needs anyone to conjure fantasies of future schadenfreude over the regret of record execs. People need tactics and strategies to figure out how to stop this destruction.