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which app are you talking about? as per the conference keynote, there are loads of different ones now, written in different stacks without any overlapping implementations.

If you're talking about the old Element Classic mobile app, then yes, it's now been replaced by Element X (which now has spaces & threads support, and so pretty much has parity with the old app), and it is super fast, and not buggy.



Latest Element X Testflight and nightly both crash for me very consistently when navigating back from two or more levels deep (like from Chats > room > room info and then going back). iOS 26.1 beta (23B5064e). I’ve been blaming it on iOS for now since I can’t go back to not running a beta yet :( Also seems like the notification badge is always = real notifications + 1 which i’ve read happens with Synapse or something but I’ve never found a way to fix it.

Also seems like spoiler messages in Element X appear as just an empty chat bubble that i’ve been meaning to report. And why does sending spoilers on Element require using /spoiler when discord and telegram use `||spoilered text||`?

I really want to love Matrix. I’ve been using it with my girlfriend (on a self hosted Synapse server for us) who barely tolerates it, some other friends who range from also tolerating it to hating it (and having decryption errors a lot with a friend who has several clients they switch between, mostly whenever I send a message from another client like when going from element to nheko). I bridge Telegram, Signal, and IRC to matrix (and probably will add more soon). I’m not sure why I care so much about this chat protocol, but I do for some reason and I really want to see it work.


Unfortunately that really does sound like an iOS beta problem - iOS betas are infamously unstable, and effectively used by Apple to hunt crashes that they've introduced when existing apps run.

The notification badge issue is this mess: https://github.com/element-hq/element-x-ios/issues/3151 and is almost solved (but not deployed yet).

Spoilers is https://github.com/element-hq/element-x-ios/issues/2839 but isn't really on our radar - please can you upvote / comment on it.

Thanks for keeping the faith :)


Hoping there’s a new iOS version soon then so I can get off the beta, has been annoying dealing with crashes but at least element x launches really fast.

Really glad to hear that notification badges are almost fixed! I left an upvote on the spoilers issue but don’t really have anything to add other than it’s annoying to not have a way of even seeing the contents.


Hi! I'm referring to the one on element.io/download marked "Desktop" I haven't tried element.x. Seems to be phone only?


Right, thanks for clarifying. Yes, the desktop app isn’t as fast as it should be. On mobile we fixed this with Element X; on desktop we’re in the middle of the transition still. The conf talk on Element X Web is pretty good at explaining where it’s at: https://youtu.be/z0ULOptq2vk?t=240

Edit: also, on macOS on Apple Silicon, you can use Element X on macOS as a desktop app, and it works impressively well.


For Desktop, use nheko as the client app. It's lightning fast.


It's not buggy? You should try going to the app store(s) and looking at reviews.


again, which app are you talking about? it's like saying "the web is buggy" but not saying what browser you're using. Looking at the App Store reviews for Element X at https://apps.apple.com/us/app/element-x-secure-chat-call/id1..., there are no complaints about bugs at all (only missing functionality, which has since been added)?


Brother, look at reviews for element x for android on play store. Come on, you're being intentionally obtuse.




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