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Didn't this effort start with Mozilla and not Google? I think you will in fact forget the name Mason Freed, just like most of us forgot about XSLT.


> Didn't this effort start with Mozilla and not Google?

Maybe round one of it like ten years ago did? From what I understand, it's a Google employee who opened the "Hey, I want to get rid of this and have no plans to provide a zero-effort-for-users replacement." Github Issue a few months back.


> It was opened by a Chrome engineer after at least two meetings where a Mozilla engineer raised the topic, and where there was apparently vendor support for it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44953349


I don't see any evidence of that claim from the materials I have available to me. [0] is the Github Issue I mentioned. [1] is the WHATNOT meeting notes linked to from that GH Issue... though I have no idea who smaug is.

[0] <https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/11523>

[1] <https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/11146#issuecomment-275...>


Smaug is the Mozilla engineer they were talking about:

https://github.com/smaug----


Ah, that was my problem... I didn't put enough minuses after the nickname. ;)


You can remember their name forever now!


You appear to have forgotten how to scroll up and notice that the name of the OP is not my name. ;)


No, I know, I'm just being silly. Sorry, I didn't mean to attribute that sentiment to you.


Hilarious, thanks. Sorry you have issues with memory.


It started with Mozilla, Apple, and Opera jumping ship and forming WHATWG. That stopped new XML related technologies from being adopted in browsers twenty years ago. Google is just closing the casket and burying the body.


Why would I forget about XSLT a really good technology pushed to the wayside by bad faith actors? Why would I forget Mason Freed? A person dedicating themselves to ruining perfectly good technology that needs a little love.

Do you have some sort of exclusive short term memory or something where you can’t remember someone’s name? Bizarre reply. Other people may have had a similarly lazy idea, but Mason is the one pushing and leading the charge.

It seems maybe you want me to blame this on Google as a whole but that would mean bypassing blame and giving into their ridiculous bs.



Ah you’re just a Google boot licker. Sorry I wasted my time responding, I thought you were serious.


I'm not a Google boot licker, I just hate XSLT, like (empirically) most developers.


Well maybe you should at least start licking some boots because your attitude towards a templating language is the billion dollar corpo way. You fit right in and could at least get some perks out shitting on technology you probably never fully understood and you get to be a better contributor to helping close off the web.

All of the disliked technologies and people who use them will be gone one day as we champion these destructive initiatives onward. Thank you hater!




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