> Maybe if Google hears this they will finally lift a finger towards removing garbage from search results.

It's likely they can filter the results for their own agents, but will leave other results as they are. Half the issue with normal results are their ads - that's not going away.

“Show me the incentive and I’ll show you the outcome” - Charlie Munger

Kagi works better and will continue to do so as long as Kagi’s interests are aligned with users’ needs and Google’s aren’t.

>Maybe if Google hears this they will finally lift a finger towards removing garbage from search results.

Unlikely. There are very few people willing to pay for Kagi. The HN audience is not at all representative of the overall population.

Google can have really miserable search results and people will still use it. It's not enough to be as good as google, you have to be 30% better than google and still free in order to convert users.

I use Kagi and it's one of the few services I am OK with a reoccurring charge from because I trust the brand for whatever reason. Until they find a way to make it free, though, it can't replace google.

They are transparent about their growth of paying customers, do you feel as if this fairly consistent and linear rate of growth will never be enough to be meaningful?

https://kagi.com/stats

> Maybe if Google hears this they will finally lift a finger towards removing garbage from search results.

They spent the last decade and a half encouraging the proliferation of garbage via "SEO". I don't see this reversing.

Google wants there to be garbage in search results, because most of the garbage sites are full of Google ads.

There are several startups providing web search solely for ai agents. Not sure any agent uses Google for this.

Maybe we should learn to pass reverse-turing tests and pretend to be LLMs so we can use this stuff lol.